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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-17T03:18:46Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

That would be nice. When you'll have a suitable and convenient time for you?

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

The only solution would be Teamviewer and I look myself.

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Re: Editable documentation

2012-05-16T21:20:02Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

Yes, you just need to be added to the 'contributors' group on the wiki, which you've been added to now.

Please coordinate with Marcus on documentation related to TCP.

Thank you for offering to help!

– Juha

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Editable documentation

2012-05-16T20:06:57Z

Page added by Roman Buldygin

Is there opportunity to make documentation editable for site users?
Presented documentation not cover all aspects of using and configuring OR.
After some days and topics on forum I understand how to use tcp devices and what tcp device should answer for responses. Now I want to write not article, but some small faq to save time for new users. Have I ability for publishing it in documentation page?

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Re: General question about OR and TCP

2012-05-16T19:56:13Z

Page commented by Roman Buldygin

After some some experiments I found that TCP sensor understands not "on","off" strings but "on\r","off\r" strings.

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

Example 1 sounds ok.
Example 2 should return "on" or "off" depending the status of your device.

For a switch you need three commands (one to perform "on" action, one for the "off" action and one to retrieve the status). You also need a switch sensor which is linked to the status command. And final a switch object which uses the switch sensor and the on and of commands.

Regarding telnet, there are a few forum threads about it.

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Re: Deleting Device result in error 500

2012-05-16T14:25:26Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

Yes. Will work some other items out of the way first before taking a look.

In reply to a comment by Philippe Fontaine:

To the attention of the admins,
Does anyone has a solution for the 500 error code?
Because this error i can not use my designer, i receive this message when i open my designer.
This must be a bug I think...

Thanks for help

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Re: Deleting Device result in error 500

2012-05-16T13:45:38Z

Page commented by Philippe Fontaine

Thanks for help

In reply to a comment by Philippe Fontaine:

I use a iOS console

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T11:08:15Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

The only solution would be Teamviewer and I look myself.

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

It still doesn't go through.. I'll try it later on again with other options of Commands fields. But now as it is - it doesn't work.

Thanks!

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T11:06:41Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

It still doesn't go through.. I'll try it later on again with other options of Commands fields. But now as it is - it doesn't work.

Thanks!

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

Nothing, that's why I said earlier "without any state items".
Just hit "Submit" after defining the name, the type and choose a command.

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T11:06:41Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

Once you have this working we know the communication is established.

To send commands to switches you don't need a sensor.
Just create a command with "attribute = PIO.A", host, port, address and assign this to a button.
The current implementation should read "PIO.A" and if it is "0" it will write "1" or vice versa.
This should toggle the switch.

Sending dedicated "on" or "off" which you need to create a openremote switch object is not supported.

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

And how at this point I should send the commands to the switches based on DS2408 or DS2413?

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T10:59:41Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

And how at this point I should send the commands to the switches based on DS2408 or DS2413?

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

Nothing, that's why I said earlier "without any state items".
Just hit "Submit" after defining the name, the type and choose a command.

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T10:59:04Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

Nothing, that's why I said earlier "without any state items".
Just hit "Submit" after defining the name, the type and choose a command.

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

So what should be in the "Name" and in the "Value" fields?

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T10:59:33Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

So what should be in the "Name" and in the "Value" fields?

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

The 1-Wire protocol was changed after the How-to was written. I think it works with custom sensor now because it returns a string which includes a decimal point and does not convert to integer anymore which is used by the RangeSensor.
Just create the CustomSensor like this:

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T10:28:51Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

Actually, you are right - I use port 3000. And in command in OR Designer I use 3000 too.

So.. What is the issue about the RangeSensor. And what does it mean like to use CuastomSensor without any state item?

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T10:18:12Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

Actually, you are right - I use port 3000. And in command in OR Designer I use 3000 too.

So.. What is the issue about the RangeSensor. And what does it mean like to use CuastomSensor without any state item?

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

In the 1-Wire command you use port 3000. This means owserver also has to be started with "-p 3000".
If you use "-p 4304" as in my example you also have to change the openremote 1-wire command to port 4304.

There could also be an issue with the RangeSensor on our side. Please try and use CustomSensor without any state items.

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T10:12:03Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

There could also be an issue with the RangeSensor on our side. Please try and use CustomSensor without any state items.

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

I sent the log files and OpenRemote Designer settings file to you over email

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T09:56:37Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

I sent the log files and OpenRemote Designer settings file to you over email

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

You can email me (marcus (at) openremote (dot) org) the openremote.zip which you can download from the designer.
Also, can you look at the log files, if you see any error or exception?

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T08:16:00Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

You can email me (marcus (at) openremote (dot) org) the openremote.zip which you can download from the designer.
Also, can you look at the log files, if you see any error or exception?

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

OpenRemote is run on the same host with OWFS package installed on. On my Synology NAS as I described above.

I've also tried to start OWFS using your commands and the problem is still the same.
And if you say the commands I use to start <owserver>, <owhttpd>, <owfs> are fine, so what could be the problem of I can't get the values of my temperature from DS18B20 sensors?

I could provide you with my OpenRemote account details. Would you be able to look on my OpenRemote Designer settings? I can also give you the temporary web-adress to access the owhttpd to look on the 1-wire system state.

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T07:48:46Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

OpenRemote is run on the same host with OWFS package installed on. On my Synology NAS as I described above.

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

With the commands in your last post everything is fine. If you use these commands owfs and owhttp are also using owersever just like OpenRemote does. Do you also have OpenRemote installed on the Synology DS209 NAS or on another machine?
If openremote is running on the same machine (the DS209 NAS) then the settings I showed above are fine. If OpenRemote is not running on the NAS you have to use the NAS's IP for the "host" attribute when defining the 1-Wire command in OpenRemote designer.

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T07:16:36Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

Ok, fair enough.

As long as I understand, OpenRemote and owfs(file system itself, the part of OWFS package) can't run on the same time? But what if I'd like to get access to my 1-Wire devices through the file system (owfs)? You said here: How To - 1-Wire sensors, that is possible to run owfs and OpenRemote on the same time when owfs reads the data from owserver(the part of OWFS).

And of course I have my DS18B20 sensors attached to the "master" - DS9490R(which is attached to my Synology DS209 NAS) using SFTP bus. After starting OWFS services with the sequence of the commands below I see my sensors in the system thru the web-page http://<ip-where-owhttpd-is-running>:8890/ and directly trough the file system of my NAS.

1) /usr/bin/owserver -uall -p 4304

2) /usr/bin/owfs -s 4304 /var/1-Wire/

(owfs read data from owserver port 4304, and shouldn't interfere with OpenRemote)

3) /usr/bin/owhttpd -s 4304 -p 8888

Please tell me, how do they differ from what you've said to make some obstacle for proper work of OpenRemote.

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-16T07:32:33Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

Ok, fair enough.

1) /usr/bin/owserver -uall -p 4304

2) /usr/bin/owfs -s 4304 /var/1-Wire/

(owfs read data from owserver port 4304, and shouldn't interfere with OpenRemote)

3) /usr/bin/owhttpd -s 4304 -p 8888

Please tell me, how do they differ from what you've said to make some obstacle for proper work of OpenRemote.

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

owfs is not owserver. OpenRemote needs owserver. The program is also called owserver.
If you have the USB device you start owserver like this: /usr/bin/owserver -u -p 4304
Do you already know 1-Wire and have a complete 1-Wire bus setup and running? Or do you only have one DS18B20 attached to your DS9490R?

Once you have owserver running you can use owhttpd to verify that all devices are found.
Start owhttpd like this: /usr/bin/owhttpd -s localhost:4304 -p 8888
Now you can access 1-Wire through a web page: http://<ip-where-owhttpd-is-running>:8888/

Once you have that running, you can setup OpenRemote. If it runs on the same machine as owserver the settings for the command are:
host: localhost
port: 4304
device address:/28.25E9E3010000
sensor attribute: temperature
polling interval: 1m

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-15T20:41:21Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

I use the command to start owfs: "/opt/bin/owfs -s 3000 /mnt/1-wire &" to start owfs without direct access to 1-wire devices.

It is quite different, but still the same. And fuse driver(mainly owfs) doesn't run if I start owfs the way I described above. And I still got N/A, when read from my sensors on the the same host, where owserver runs.

What could be the problem?

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-15T16:50:16Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

I use the command to start owfs: "/opt/bin/owfs -s 3000 /mnt/1-wire &" to start owfs without direct access to 1-wire devices.

What could be the problem?

In reply to a comment by Alex Dom:

Dear Marcus Redeker,

You said beneath this article: How To - 1-Wire sensors, that:

"..By the way, the current implementation supports a toggle for 1-wire switches. If you create a command with "sensor attribute = PIO.A" you should be able to assign this command to a button and use that to toggle the switch.."

But you see.. I'm the one who is called "newbie". I have DS2413 dual-chanel switch. But I don't know how to deal with it being connected to my Synology DS(NAS) thru DS9490R-master. Would you describe this mechanism in details in here?

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Re: 1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-15T08:00:45Z

Page commented by Alex Dom

Dear Marcus Redeker,

You said beneath this article: How To - 1-Wire sensors, that:

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1-Wire and OpenRemote

2012-05-15T07:54:08Z

Page edited by Alex Dom

In continuation of the discussion opened beneath the article How To - 1-Wire sensors about 1-Wire and OWFS:

I have my sensors(DS18B20) visible within the OWFS, but the temperatures appear as N/A in iPhone or Web-panel after I read from them the way described in How To - 1-Wire sensors.
The only difference is I don't assign the aliases to my sensors the way it described here above. So my device address looks the way like: "\28.25E9E3010000". I don't think it could occur any issues.

The only thing I'm still hesitating is: "Hostname - ip address or hostname of owserver". Is this address complies to the IP of my server(mainly Synology DS). Is this local address or 127.0.0.1?

__________________________________________________________________________

Onward implementation(taht I was explained in the article How To - 1-Wire sensors) is to discontinue the OWFS.

But how is that suppose to interact with OpenRemote?

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Re: Deleting Device result in error 500

2012-05-15T07:00:02Z

Page commented by Philippe Fontaine

I use a iOS console

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

Which console are you using (iOS, Android, Web) ?

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Struggling to get panels to load

2012-05-15T06:52:27Z

Page added by J Gastile

I've be using OR for a little while, but by no means a pro, but I have successfully been able to control my system. Recently I hit a brick wall. I'm using Acer A500 tablet, and each time I try to sync up to the controller, it says the Current controller isn't available. Using cached content. Normally I disregard because everything will still work after pressing OK. This time around and ever since I revised a panel, I can not get a panel to load at all.

I attempted to clear the controller cache but I get "Failed to reload configuration and clear cache!" so I opted redeployed a new controller, But no luck.
Then I attempted to clear the image cache in the Android app.
Then I cleared the application data directly from the device to force the panels to load (this ended up crashing the Android app whenever it opened "the application OpenRemote(process org.openremote.android.console) has stopped unexpectedly).
Then I reverted back to Beta2 from Beta3 to see if I could get some better results

All of which I was unsuccessful.

I'm thinking that my panel data is to large when zipped, it totals 6megs is it possible that the size is causing the initial load to timeout? I also reduced the amount of sensors to ease the polling traffic, but still no luck.

I'm using port 9000 for the controller, no SSL, and nothing seems to pop out at me in the logs

Any Suggestions?

-JG

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Re: Deleting Device result in error 500

2012-05-15T06:37:21Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

Which console are you using (iOS, Android, Web) ?

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Deleting Device result in error 500

2012-05-14T18:56:22Z

Page added by Philippe Fontaine

Hello,

I have 2 problems,

I want do delete a device and i receive the following error: "500 The call failed on the server; see server log for details"
I receive the same error when i want to save.
For the admins, my login is "people" and the device i want to delete is "Temperatuur buiten"

The second problem:

I have create a screen with buttons, switches and sliders and everything works fine.
I create a second screen and all the buttons, sliders works but i receive no status, so that switches can turn on but not off.
I verified all my sensors and all the addresses are correct.
It's very strange because everything works perfect on my first screen, and on my second screen i have no status receive on all the commands...

Thanks for help,

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IPX et OpenRemote 2.0

2012-05-14T14:41:43Z

Page added by Vincent FERREUX

Bonjour à tous,

Petit tutoriel pour les utilisateurs d'IPX, automate made in France de GCE-Electronics, voici comment intégrer les relais et les entrées de un ou plusieurs l'IPX sur la même interface Iphone, Ipad, etc.

Prérequis : Serveur d'automatisme (Windows, Mac, Linux, Synology), java et openremote 2.0 controller fonctionnel

Se connecter sur l'"Online Designer"

Dans le building modeler, créer un "new device"
Indiquer le nom de l'IPX, GCE -electronics as vendor, IPX800_V3 as model

Ensuite "add command"
Indiquer le nom du relais à commander ainsi que l'état voulu (ON, OFF, STATUS)
Exemple : Chevet Chbre A ON
Sélectionner le protocole TCP/IP
Renseigner l'adresse de l'IPX visé
Le port par défaut est le 9870
Les commandes sont les suivantes :
ON : Setx1 avec x le numéro du relais (de 1 à 8)
OFF: Setx0 avec x le numéro du relais (de 1 à 8)
STATUS : GetOutx avec x le numéro du relais (de 1 à 8)
"Submit and continue" à chaque commande.

Creer ensuite un sensor qui servira de retour d'état :
"add sensor"
indiquer par exemple Chevet Chbre A SENSOR
Choisir la command STATUS
Type Custom
Ajouter les champs custom suivant :
on | GetOut=1
off | GetOut=0

Valider et ajouter un Switch
choisir le sensor
indiquer les commandes ON et OFF renseignées plus haut
Valider

Votre switch est prêt à être interfacer.

Aller dans "l'UI Designer"
Creer votre panel à votre guise
insérer un switch
choisir la "switch commande"

Enregistrer, uploader la mise à jour dans le controller, et c'est prêt.
Vous pouvez contrôler votre appareil depuis votre Tablette ou smartphone.

à votre disposition,

Cordialement,

–
Veance

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Error 500 The call failed on the server

2012-05-14T11:02:44Z

Page added by Cl'Pedro

Hello,

i made some changes to my configuration, maybe something because i always have the error message:
500 The call failed on the server; see server log for details

Maybe you can tell me what is going wrong cause i don't have access to the log.
You can totally reset my config if necessary..
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Problem with KNX-DMX-RGB

2012-05-14T08:07:53Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

Hi, some of the source code does already include a colorpicker which delivers RGB values. It's not in the current released designer and controller yet. It will probably be available in one of the next versions.

How does the color be translated with your DMX-KNX gateway?
Do you have thre group addresses (one for each color) or a combined one?

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-14T07:40:07Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

Correct, that should be updated to give a more appropriate hint to where the schema is located, or removed.

In reply to a comment by pe zanstra:

With "second argument" I meant the part (http://www.openremote.org/schemas/controller.xsd) of the <openremote> attribute xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.openremote.org http://www.openremote.org/schemas/controller.xsd"

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-13T21:17:28Z

Page commented by pe zanstra

In reply to a comment by Juha Lindfors:

Not sure I understand what the second argument is?

The namespace declaration is indeed just a string, and is interpreted as such. It must follow the URI specification or be left empty. For example, the namespace used for XHMTL is http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/ which also does not locate the schema itself (even though the identifier can be resolved to a valid URL, it should not be treated as such, or assumed that it locates a schema).

Or in other words, the namespace value is intended for humans to read only, and has no additional semantics.

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-13T15:16:33Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

Not sure I understand what the second argument is?

Or in other words, the namespace value is intended for humans to read only, and has no additional semantics.

In reply to a comment by pe zanstra:

My initial problem was indeed with understanding the role of the namespace name in the xsi specifier. I thought it was part of the path to the XSD, which it isn't. Thanks for emphasizing that.
If I do understand the above statement correctly it does not say anything about the second argument, i.e. the URL to the .xsd. So I still think it would be beter that the xsd's are in the schema subdirectory, as specified in the generated xml files.

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-13T15:04:18Z

Page commented by pe zanstra

In reply to a comment by Juha Lindfors:

So the problem in my first post is probably due to the fact that the the xsd is not available/accessible in the schema directory http://www.openremote.org/schema. IMHO that is wrong for production environments. The generated XML should always refer to the prevailing schema!

As far as I understand, namespace bindings are unique identifiers and are not necessarily valid URLs.

Declaring Namespaces states:

The attribute's normalized value MUST be either a URI reference — the namespace name identifying the namespace — or an empty string. The namespace name, to serve its intended purpose, SHOULD have the characteristics of uniqueness and persistence. It is not a goal that it be directly usable for retrieval of a schema (if any exists). Uniform Resource Names RFC2141 is an example of a syntax that is designed with these goals in mind. However, it should be noted that ordinary URLs can be managed in such a way as to achieve these same goals.

(see emphasis)

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-13T14:15:14Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

So the problem in my first post is probably due to the fact that the the xsd is not available/accessible in the schema directory http://www.openremote.org/schema. IMHO that is wrong for production environments. The generated XML should always refer to the prevailing schema!

As far as I understand, namespace bindings are unique identifiers and are not necessarily valid URLs.

Declaring Namespaces states:

The attribute's normalized value MUST be either a URI reference — the namespace name identifying the namespace — or an empty string. The namespace name, to serve its intended purpose, SHOULD have the characteristics of uniqueness and persistence. It is not a goal that it be directly usable for retrieval of a schema (if any exists). Uniform Resource Names RFC2141 is an example of a syntax that is designed with these goals in mind. However, it should be noted that ordinary URLs can be managed in such a way as to achieve these same goals.

(see emphasis)

In reply to a comment by pe zanstra:

@Marcus
You stated:
"The schema files are not accessible through the URL's used in the XML definition.
You have to tell XMLSpy to use a local version of the XSD."

I could not believe that you cannot refer to a schema using a URL. So I reassessed my experiment with XMLSpy, where I noticed that it had placed a ":n" after the first occurence of xmlns. The XML was assessed as valid after deleting that.
Next I placed a copy of of the .xsd on my webserver, adapted the controller.xml to refer to that address. Also that resulted in a valid XML according to XMLspy.

So the problem in my first post is probably due to the fact that the the xsd is not available/accessible in the schema directory http://www.openremote.org/schema. IMHO that is wrong for production environments. The generated XML should always refer to the prevailing schema!

Note: So XMLSpy seems happy now, but the official W3 Consortium validator ( http://validator.w3.org )is less happy. It seems to insist on a Doctype declaration for the schema.

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-13T13:03:08Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

What I ment with that sentence was, that the files are not accessible at the openremot server at that address. If you copy them somewhere else and change the definition, that is of course possible.

I will see if we can also put the XSD's at the location stated in the XML.

In reply to a comment by pe zanstra:

@Marcus
You stated:
"The schema files are not accessible through the URL's used in the XML definition.
You have to tell XMLSpy to use a local version of the XSD."

Note: So XMLSpy seems happy now, but the official W3 Consortium validator ( http://validator.w3.org )is less happy. It seems to insist on a Doctype declaration for the schema.

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-13T07:53:51Z

Page commented by pe zanstra

@Marcus
You stated:
"The schema files are not accessible through the URL's used in the XML definition.
You have to tell XMLSpy to use a local version of the XSD."

Note: So XMLSpy seems happy now, but the official W3 Consortium validator ( http://validator.w3.org )is less happy. It seems to insist on a Doctype declaration for the schema.

In reply to a comment by pe zanstra:

My XMLspy is from 2006, maybe the newer versions deal with assignment of local XSD's better.

I never had problems with locally verfying an XML against a URL reference to a .XSD. I just checked one of my old resources and saw that I never used namespaces, and could use something like: "xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://clam.eggbird.eu/EN14463-2007.xsd" as reference.

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Problem with KNX-DMX-RGB

2012-05-12T23:08:27Z

Page added by Gerardo Santarpia

Hi, I'm a new member, i'm italian and i'm very interested to Open remote app.
I have a 5 strip led rgb witha controller DMX-KNX, it's possible to integrate a color chain o fader to select a specify color?

Thanks..

Gerardo

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Re: Webconsole Loading...

2012-05-11T21:39:29Z

Page commented by Richard Turner

Hi Mike,

I couldn't replicate your issue even with your panel and controller XML files.

Only thing I can suggest is to ZIP your entire Tomcat webapps folder, email it to me and I can run things exactly the same way as you to determine where the problem lies.

Rich

In reply to a comment by Mike Tirpak:

Did this issue ever get fixed? My webconsole still just sits there and spins with the loading sign. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thanks

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Re: Webconsole startup

2012-05-11T21:36:33Z

Page commented by Richard Turner

Hi Stefan,

You are not doing anything wrong. The webconsole at present will always load a panel of size 320x480 (iphone size).

The current XML schema for the panels does not indicate the size of panel (as defined in the designer), this is set to be included in the future.

What the web console does need is to remember your preference (i.e. fullscreen or width and height). I will add this functionality soon so keep an eye on the forums!

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-12T09:52:24Z

Page commented by pe zanstra

My XMLspy is from 2006, maybe the newer versions deal with assignment of local XSD's better.

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

I don't have XMLSpy, so I cannot really say anthing to that.
The XSD contains the declaration for 'openremote' and the java parser is cool with it.
Maybe somebody else has XMLSpy and can say something to this.

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-11T16:24:38Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

Mike,
the default configuration in the controller assumes, that the controller was started with the current directory beeing "tomcat/bin".
If you use a windows service it's most likely that the runtime directory is something else.
Try to change the "resource.path=..." setting in "tomcat/webapps/controller/WEB-INF/classes/config.properties" and assign an absolute value.
--Marcus

In reply to a comment by Mike Tirpak:

I'm having the same problem. I'm running windows 7 64 bit. I can run tomcat from the command line, but when I try to install tomcat as a service, I get the same error. On the flip side, I can install tomcat from xampp or the installer and get tomcat to run as a service. When I copy the controller folder into webapps, I can access the page but I can't sync with my account. I get errors that say the path file doesn't exist.

Talk about frustrating. I checked and tested permissions, paths and configurations. I get the same result every time. I would list everything I have done, but I don't want to get cramps from typing so much.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-11T16:17:05Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

In reply to a comment by pe zanstra:

This is not terribly important or urgent for me, but I just would like to understand. I have worked myself quite a bit with XML, but mostly used DTD as reference.

I have downloaded the controller.xsd and copied that to the directory where I also have controller.xml. I openend the latter in XML Spy, and used that tool to assign the reference to the XSD. That resulted in:
<openremote xmlns:n="http://www.openremote.org" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.openremote.org
D:\ORcontroller.xsd">

XMLSpy reports on revalidate that this file is not valid, The element declaration was not found for root element 'openremote'

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-11T16:08:15Z

Page commented by pe zanstra

This is not terribly important or urgent for me, but I just would like to understand. I have worked myself quite a bit with XML, but mostly used DTD as reference.

XMLSpy reports on revalidate that this file is not valid, The element declaration was not found for root element 'openremote'

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

The schema files are not accessible through the URL's used in the XML definition.
You have to tell XMLSpy to use a local version of the XSD.

You can download the XSD's from here:

http://openremote.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openremote/tags/project/Controller/Controller_2_0_0/config/panel-2.0-M7.xsd?revision=6189&view=markup

http://openremote.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openremote/tags/project/Controller/Controller_2_0_0/config/controller-2.0-M7.xsd?revision=6189&view=markup

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Re: Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-11T09:37:51Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

The schema files are not accessible through the URL's used in the XML definition.
You have to tell XMLSpy to use a local version of the XSD.

You can download the XSD's from here:

http://openremote.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openremote/tags/project/Controller/Controller_2_0_0/config/panel-2.0-M7.xsd?revision=6189&view=markup

http://openremote.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openremote/tags/project/Controller/Controller_2_0_0/config/controller-2.0-M7.xsd?revision=6189&view=markup

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-11T08:27:38Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

Nice job!

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

Problem solved.
@Everybody: Make sure you change into "Openremote/bin" folder and execute "openremote.bat run" in that folder.

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Keri Access Control

2012-05-10T19:57:15Z

Page added by Mike Tirpak

I was wondering if anyone has gotten any Keri Systems controllers to work with openremote? If so, what protocol did you use and what commands did you send to the controller.

Thanks

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Re: Webconsole Loading...

2012-05-10T19:53:06Z

Page commented by Mike Tirpak

Did this issue ever get fixed? My webconsole still just sits there and spins with the loading sign. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thanks

In reply to a comment by Richard Turner:

Latest revision can be found here (r6034): -

http://openremote.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/openremote/workspace/richturner/WebConsole_2_0_0_template

Yann and Mike both your panel definitions work with this version.

Mike strangely there was nothing I needed to fix to get your iphone and ipad panels to load so either I fixed the problem you were seeing when resolving Yann's issues or the problem is specific to your setup. Make sure you have the latest version of the controller.

Yann in the process of fixing the problems you were seeing I've noticed some differences between the way the various consoles render: -

For buttons Android console will display image and label where as iOS and Web Console will only show label if the image doesn't load (not sure what the 'correct' behaviour is)
For widgets in a grid panel the Web Console fits the widget to the grid cell, Android and iOS do the same except for image widgets where if the image is smaller than the cell then the image size is used instead (as a result the Web Console currently stretches the image to fit the cell which makes your screens look strange).

These differences in rendering behaviour need to be clarified but I will change the Web Console image rendering to match iOS and Android.

Rich

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Webconsole startup

2012-05-10T19:28:50Z

Page added by Schölkens

Helle everyone,
maybe someone can help. I am trying to set up a webconsole with size 800x800. When i set up the new panel in the designer 800x800 does everything looks great.
But when i start IE or Firefox do i have the view of a Iphone (size). I can raise it, and it shows the panel like in the designer.
I don't want to resize it everytime. What do i do wrong that the IE or Firefox show up the size i did creat in the designer?
Can anyone help, cause i just started with this.
Thanks Stefan

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Designer delivers invalid xml

2012-05-10T11:43:03Z

Page added by pe zanstra

Using XMLSpy 2006, I have tried to validate the controller and panel XML files. Validation fails because the schema (http://www.openremote.org/schemas/panel.xsd) defined in the header is not found.

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-09T19:44:21Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

Problem solved.
@Everybody: Make sure you change into "Openremote/bin" folder and execute "openremote.bat run" in that folder.

In reply to a comment by Philippe Fontaine:

grrrr, the problem is always the same.
Can anybody configurate it for me? I have Teamviewer to access my pc...

thx

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Re: Writing controller.xml without designer

2012-05-10T07:55:08Z

Page commented by pe zanstra

I guess it is not there. It should be possible to derive some guidance (but I guess not all) from the respective schema's. However, when I tried to validate my downloaded controller.xml, the XSD specified in the header was not found.
edit: In the meantime I found a reference to the schemas: http://www.openremote.org/display/docs/XML+Schemas

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Extra console page for controller maintenance

2012-05-08T21:53:04Z

Page added by Marcus Redeker

For a convenient user experience, the idea is that the user does not need to access the controller through an extra controller webpage, but can do all tasks from the console.

These tasks include:

Link controller to online account
Unlink controller from online account
Sync design with online account
Remove synced design from controller

This can be achieved through a "virtual" panel which the controller always returns on the rest call "/rest/panels" even if no design is synced.
If a design is synced, the controller would add that panel to the panels that are included in the design.
I suggest the name "Controller Maintenance" for this panel.

The panel "Controller Maintenance" provides the following information:

Linked account name: <name> or "Not yet linked"
2 Buttons: Link account & Unlink account
Design synced: Yes / No
2 Buttons: Sync design & Remove design

Here is a screenshot:

For this to work we will have to reserve some ID's which the designer cannot use when generating panel.xml since these ID's will be used by the controler maintenance panel.

Regarding the Link and Unlink mechanism for the controller, I will create an extra forum page.

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Re: General question about OR and TCP

2012-05-08T21:47:17Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

Example 1 sounds ok.
Example 2 should return "on" or "off" depending the status of your device.

Regarding telnet, there are a few forum threads about it.

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Writing controller.xml without designer

2012-05-08T05:54:00Z

Page added by Roman Buldygin

Is there tutorial or article about writing controller and panel files without designer?

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General question about OR and TCP

2012-05-08T05:50:42Z

Page added by Roman Buldygin

I'm trying to write small tcp server that will receive commands from OR.
But now I not understand that OR expect from me.

Example 1:
I made in designer device, that has command LSWON - this command send to localhost:5011 string "LSW1 ON". My server receives this message and close TCP socket.
In this case all work right. Maybe.

Example 2:
Same device have a sensor. This sensor sends string "LSW1 STATUS". How my tcp server should answer?

Is there some reference about how to process answer from server and in which cases OR expect answer?

I read tutorial about using telnet devices and also not understand in which place in controller xml should I insert regexp.

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Re: Yet another ZigBee integration topic

2012-05-08T05:33:10Z

Page commented by Roman Buldygin

Right now I'm trying to make tcp to zigbee bridge. My tcp server will process commands from OR and send data to ZigBee network via XBee module, connected to PC throw ft232rl chip.

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Android console issue (null values causing exception)

2012-05-08T01:49:19Z

Page edited by Martin Darwin

Not sure where to report bugs. Using the Android market version but this problem appears to be in trunk as well.

In PollingStatusParser.java (method parse), it doesn't handle the case where the nodevalue is blank. i.e. if my HTTP server responds with a null string (using a custom sensor), the Android console throws an exception and dies.

I believe checking to make sure there are nodes should fix the problem. See below:

            String newStatus = "";
            if (nodeList.item(i).hasChildNodes()) {
            	newStatus = nodeList.item(i).getFirstChild().getNodeValue();
            }

This does not seem to be an issue on the iOs console.

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Re: Implementing client side protocols

2012-05-07T22:58:15Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

Changing the namespace on the controller side does indeed require a code change in the controller.

Looking at the number of places where the http://www.openremote.org namespace identifier is used currently makes this look like a non-trivial change.

Changing the namespace for panel-side only would limit the impact of this change.

Particularly given that ultimately we do want to work our way back to a single namespace and schema definition for all elements so that the controller can control the client's view in a dynamic way.

In reply to a comment by Ivan Francolin Martinez:

This namespace change appear to be the correct, but will not break the old controllers ?

If current controllers will be fine, no problem, but if current controllers break probably will be better to use http://www.openremote.org/panel for new elements, and prepare the controllers to be able to accept the changes and make the namespace change for old elements later.

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Re: Yet another ZigBee integration topic

2012-05-07T20:57:13Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

Not sure which one would be "better" per se. Will depend on the HTTP API you define. Initially a simple HTTP API may be sufficient but over the long term I would guess the controller will benefit from a fairly detailed access to the Zigbee protocol and packets – at this point while it may still be possible to use the HTTP API for this, it may not be terribly efficient.

So HTTP may be an ok first step, longer term the ZB protocol should migrate to controller. Depends also on your scope and time/effort you're putting into this.

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Re: Linux-based wall-mounted or embedded touch screen - panel with OR Controller pre-installed?

2012-05-07T13:03:38Z

Page commented by Ivan Francolin Martinez

Here in Brazil the things are really expensive, but currently we have here many 7" Android Tablets comming with prices near US$100-US$200, anyone is making and selling this. Good ideas like Raspberry Pi, are not available here. To get one of this US$35 devices I have to pay near US$40 for shipping, and probably more US$50 for importing taxes(total aprox US$125).

Android devices are becoming very cheap, the Controller is available directly on the Play Store. Like Eric said, maybe the user experience for first time user can be changed to be easier but I think that using and standard platform will give better results, in costs and benefits, because we can use all the features implemented in the devices and available in the stores. The LocalCommand implementation on consoles will make easier to put all things available to OR Console.

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Re: Implementing client side protocols

2012-05-07T12:46:58Z

Page commented by Ivan Francolin Martinez

This namespace change appear to be the correct, but will not break the old controllers ?

In reply to a comment by Eric Bariaux:

I went ahead and had a first go at the implementation and noticed that same tags in the <local> section would conflict with identically named tags in the <screens> section.
For instance, button is defined both in the panel and controller XML schema. They are however different.

One way to handle this is to not re-use the controller schema for the <local> tag elements but create specific tags.

Another way would be to use appropriate namespaces on the elements.
I noticed however that both schemas were using the same http://www.openremote.org as their namespace.

So I changed both of them to use their specific namespace, http://www.openremote.org/panel and http://www.openremote.org/controller respectively.
I can now have the panel schema include the controller schema and have the <local> tag reference tags from the controller schema, as in:

<xsd:element name="local">
   <xsd:complexType>
      <xsd:sequence>
        <xsd:element ref="ctrl:components" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
        <xsd:element ref="ctrl:sensors" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
        <xsd:element ref="ctrl:commands" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
      </xsd:sequence>
    </xsd:complexType>
</xsd:element>

And in the generated panel.xml, the <local> tag looks something like

<local>
  <ctrl:components>
    <ctrl:switch id="14">
      <ctrl:on/>
      <ctrl:off/>
    </ctrl:switch>
    <ctrl:button id="50">
      <ctrl:include type="command" ref="2"/>
    </ctrl:button>
    ...
  </ctrl:components>
  ...
</local>

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Re: Implementing client side protocols

2012-05-07T11:13:08Z

Page commented by Eric Bariaux

One way to handle this is to not re-use the controller schema for the <local> tag elements but create specific tags.

Another way would be to use appropriate namespaces on the elements.
I noticed however that both schemas were using the same http://www.openremote.org as their namespace.

<xsd:element name="local">
   <xsd:complexType>
      <xsd:sequence>
        <xsd:element ref="ctrl:components" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
        <xsd:element ref="ctrl:sensors" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
        <xsd:element ref="ctrl:commands" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="1"/>
      </xsd:sequence>
    </xsd:complexType>
</xsd:element>

And in the generated panel.xml, the <local> tag looks something like

<local>
  <ctrl:components>
    <ctrl:switch id="14">
      <ctrl:on/>
      <ctrl:off/>
    </ctrl:switch>
    <ctrl:button id="50">
      <ctrl:include type="command" ref="2"/>
    </ctrl:button>
    ...
  </ctrl:components>
  ...
</local>

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Re: Trouble with renaming devices in the designer

2012-05-06T10:36:26Z

Page commented by Marek L

I just happened to have the same problem - I created device, then renamed it to "HTTP requests" - and now every time I try to reload Designer - "500 The call failed on the server; see server log for details" error appears. I cannot remove the device either as the same error pops up.

Possible reason was I still had the sensor in use at page layout design... I cannot remove page design layour either...

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Re: Yet another ZigBee integration topic

2012-05-05T07:59:21Z

Page commented by Nejc Šmid

Hello Roman.
I'm also looking for OR - Zigbee solution. I'm relatively new on OR project, so I'm interested in what was your solution? Do you achieve OR- Zigbee integration?

Thanks for your answer,
Nejc

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-04T19:39:39Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

I am available now. Contact me at marcus (at) openremote (dot) org

In reply to a comment by Philippe Fontaine:

grrrr, the problem is always the same.
Can anybody configurate it for me? I have Teamviewer to access my pc...

thx

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-04T18:04:00Z

Page commented by Philippe Fontaine

grrrr, the problem is always the same.
Can anybody configurate it for me? I have Teamviewer to access my pc...

thx

In reply to a comment by Mike Tirpak:

Any thoughts?

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Re: KNX communication via USB using C sharp

2012-05-04T17:17:30Z

Page commented by Richard Turner

Hi,

You would have been a lot better off with an IP Interface rather than a USB one (unless there is a particular constraint that requires a USB interface) that way you could have more easily ported the OpenRemote KNX code to C#.

There is a link on this MisterHouse wiki: -

http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/EIBHowTo

The eibdriver looks like it was written for an RS232 interface (I imagine the USB KNX interface is just a USB <-> RS232 gateway - Although I'm not sure without looking into it). You might be able to use this code as a guide to help you in your quest.

Good luck!

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Re: More Rules Help...

2012-05-04T07:25:31Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

Maybe you can take this rule as a hint:

package org.openremote.controller.model.event
global org.openremote.controller.statuscache.CommandFacade execute;
global org.openremote.controller.statuscache.SwitchFacade switches;
global org.openremote.controller.statuscache.LevelFacade levels;

import java.lang.Float;

rule "test 1"
when
CustomState(source == "Temp1Sensor", val : value, eval(Float.valueOf(val) > 24.000) && eval(Float.valueOf(val) < 26))
then
System.out.println("between 24 and 26");
end

You should be able to take the source name and put that into a variable. After that perform an eval(xxx.startsWith("!MVL").
There is a very extensive documentation available on the Drools website and our testsuite also has a lot examples already.

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Re: Linux-based wall-mounted or embedded touch screen - panel with OR Controller pre-installed?

2012-05-03T22:04:01Z

Page commented by Jeremy Aston

From an installer's perspective a panel will never be cheaper than an iPad because of the install overhead. A wired panel requires an electrical supply, a mounting mechanism, LAN connection etc. It's also needs installing and maintaining.

There are definite advantages to wired, wall mounted panels in some cases and we still spec them but it's not a striaght forward DIY, entry level option. Actually, the most simple solution is an iPad with a box plugged into the ADSL switch.

Eric's points are spot on. About the only product in the A/V space that is typically easy to install for a relatively non-technical user is Sonos. Even so we reguarly do Sonos installs for people that are more than capable of doing it themselves. Did one today and doing two more in the next couple of weeks. The real beneficaries of a simple hardware install and software setup would be the integrator market as (a) it reduces the cost of an install as you can do something simple and reliable more quickly and (b) encourages take up by those entrants into the integrator space who have less IT technical experience (e.g. electricians) and need to use something that they can confidently use to add value to their business offering.

In reply to a comment by Bruce Awillis:

Would this add value?:

a neutral but well designed panel at half the price of an iPad?
preconfigured
positioned as just a reference design, referring to open source hardware suppliers for professionals who are looking for their own branded hardware solutions.
Rationale is that software without hardware doesn't work and you want to enable users to make it damn simple to get started with Open Remote and find cost effective controller and/or panel solutions.
Of course it shouldn't distract from Open Remote from differentiating with and sticking to THE software tool.

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Re: Linux-based wall-mounted or embedded touch screen - panel with OR Controller pre-installed?

2012-05-03T21:01:45Z

Page commented by Bruce Awillis

Would this add value?:

a neutral but well designed panel at half the price of an iPad?
preconfigured
positioned as just a reference design, referring to open source hardware suppliers for professionals who are looking for their own branded hardware solutions.
Rationale is that software without hardware doesn't work and you want to enable users to make it damn simple to get started with Open Remote and find cost effective controller and/or panel solutions.
Of course it shouldn't distract from Open Remote from differentiating with and sticking to THE software tool.

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-03T19:57:48Z

Page commented by Mike Tirpak

Any thoughts?

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

Since you only start with "openremote run", could it be that you renamed openremote.bat into only openremote?
The program checks for the existens of "openremote.bat".
Please make sure your start script is named "openremote.bat".

--Marcus

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-03T19:38:00Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

--Marcus

In reply to a comment by Philippe Fontaine:

Hi,

I have try what Marcus and Zanstra says but the error is the same.
Can anybody try to resolve it for me, i have teamviewer installed.

Thanks

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-03T16:33:17Z

Page commented by Philippe Fontaine

Hi,

I have try what Marcus and Zanstra says but the error is the same.
Can anybody try to resolve it for me, i have teamviewer installed.

Thanks

In reply to a comment by pe zanstra:

Just a hint. Philipe has JRE installed, just as I do. I had to set environment variable JRE_HOME to the path to get Openremote working.

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Re: Velleman K8055 Experiment USB board

2012-05-03T10:13:24Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

In my test the order of sensors were ok, but I guess it depends on how you link them online and also the Designer might export them in a different order.
We would have to find a way to link the RegEx group to the sensor name. Then we would be on the safe side. The id from the xml does not help since that is generated by the designer and can change.
We could use an extra attribute "sensorLink" which takes a string like this sensorName:1,sensorName:2,....

In reply to a comment by Max:

Thank you Marcus,

it does the trick but there is a problem with the panel's sensors order that doesn't match the sensors order referenced by sensors.get() method.

For example, if I click on the switch number 1, it executes the the right commands but the related sensors changes the state of switch number 5.

I have also double checked the group values returned by regex, the "Regular Expression Test" shows me 8 groups ordered from 1 to 8 with the related values for each group. So, the matcher.group(i+1) should be right.

I have tried to change the xml element's order but it doesn't help.

Maybe the code should refereces every sensors by its object ID and not by the index array returned by sensors.size() method. That way it should use the right sensor.

What do you think about that?

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-03T10:06:01Z

Page commented by pe zanstra

Just a hint. Philipe has JRE installed, just as I do. I had to set environment variable JRE_HOME to the path to get Openremote working.

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

I just downloaded the 2.0 release from Sourceforge and had no problems with Windows7.
I have a JDK installed to c:\jdk1.6.0_25 and the JAVA_HOME variable points to that folder.
The only difference I see is, that I start using openremote.bat.
I did not set any CATALINA variables. These are normally set automatically.

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Re: CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-03T08:01:01Z

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KNX communication via USB using C sharp

2012-05-03T07:57:23Z

Page added by MP

I'm new here, so hello everyone.

I have to create a program, that will be able to monitor KNX bus. So, when I press the button on the switch, program should show it etc. I have a KNX kit, which contains: ZPS160M power supply, GIRA 1080 00 USB programmer and one simple on/off switch.

I'm trying to figure out, how to decode data sending by ETS4 and viewed with USB Monitor Pro. It shows 64bytes incoming and outgoing each time. For example when I press the switch with ETS bus monitoring turned on: http://wklej.org/id/744522/

I'd be very gratefull if you gave me any suggestions.

PS. Sorry obout my english.

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CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

2012-05-02T19:01:52Z

Page added by Philippe Fontaine

Hello,

I have problems to install the controller on Windows 7, i receive following error:

CATALINA_HOME environment variable is not defined correctly

Thanks for help

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Re: XAMPP

2012-05-02T12:53:58Z

Page commented by Mike Tirpak

Sorry, my bad. I have apache on port 8080, so I moved tomcat to a different port and it worked. Thanks for your help.

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

What do you mean it does not show up?
When tomcat is running you should be able to access http://localhost:8080/
and if the controller is deployed: http://localhost:8080/controller

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Re: Velleman K8055 Experiment USB board

2012-05-02T10:51:17Z

Page commented by Max

Thank you Marcus,

it does the trick but there is a problem with the panel's sensors order that doesn't match the sensors order referenced by sensors.get() method.

For example, if I click on the switch number 1, it executes the the right commands but the related sensors changes the state of switch number 5.

I have tried to change the xml element's order but it doesn't help.

Maybe the code should refereces every sensors by its object ID and not by the index array returned by sensors.size() method. That way it should use the right sensor.

What do you think about that?

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

Ok, I created a version of the ShellExe command which can be used as discussed with multiple sensors linked to the same command.
The download is the same as in the post above: http://www.redeker-consulting.de/openremote/OpenRemote-Controller-2.0.0.zip

The controller.xml should look like this:

  <sensors>
    <sensor id="15" name="a2" type="switch">
      <include type="command" ref="17" />
      <state name="on" />
      <state name="off" />
    </sensor>
    <sensor id="16" name="a1" type="switch">
      <include type="command" ref="17" />
      <state name="on" />
      <state name="off" />
    </sensor>
  </sensors>
  <commands>
    <command id="17" protocol="shellexe">
      <property name="commandParams" value="/Users/marcus/test.txt" />
      <property name="regex" value="(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)" />
      <property name="pollingInterval" value="20s" />
      <property name="commandPath" value="cat" />
      <property name="name" value="a" />
    </command>
  </commands>

If your regex creates 8 var groups you can link 8 sensors to the same command.

The java code used looks like this:

Pattern regexPattern = Pattern.compile(regex);
Matcher matcher = regexPattern.matcher(readValue);
if (matcher.find()) {
  for (int i = 0; i < sensors.size(); i++) {
    sensors.get(i).update(matcher.group(i+1));
  }
}

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Re: Linux-based wall-mounted or embedded touch screen - panel with OR Controller pre-installed?

2012-05-02T08:38:56Z

Page commented by Eric Bariaux

I also do not really believe in an integrated controller + panel solution for several reasons:

It will be costly to make a good looking / high quality device that fits on/in the wall. The goal would be to have a device as nice as an iPad.
If it fits in the wall, it does involve a non trivial installation. I doubt "lambda users" will do this. At least, people who can do this can certainly install a plug computer in the closet and connect it to their LAN.

But we should indeed move towards making that last step as easy as possible (easier than it is today), like installing an Apple TV. In fact, it's making the whole start-up experience nicer.

So having a controller box that you just plug in your network, it boots up and your iPad/Android device auto-discovers it would already be nice.
We can polish the user experience, so on the iPad, instead of saying "Panel.xml not found", we should guide the user towards creating an account in the Designer and starting configuration of their system.
This is something we can work on with the current system, even before we have a box to sell.

Also, before having a dedicated physical box, using available hardware is possible.
For instance, having pre-configured SD cards available for the Plug computer or the Raspberry Pi.
Has to be seen if this solution really brings value, because it will still be a bit complex if users have to buy the Plug computer from one site, then the card from us. Maybe proposing a package can help.

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Re: XAMPP

2012-05-02T08:19:12Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

What do you mean it does not show up?
When tomcat is running you should be able to access http://localhost:8080/
and if the controller is deployed: http://localhost:8080/controller

In reply to a comment by Mike Tirpak:

Tomcat is running and working. When I moved the folder into webapps, it does not show up. Do I need to make any changes to tomcat?

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Re: XAMPP

2012-05-01T21:34:33Z

Page commented by Mike Tirpak

Tomcat is running and working. When I moved the folder into webapps, it does not show up. Do I need to make any changes to tomcat?

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

You will need a XAMPP version that includes Tomcat. The OpenRemote controller needs a Java servlet engine which Tomcat provides.
If you have XAMPP and Tomcat running, you just need to take the folder "controller" from our distribution and copy it to the webapps folder of the XAMPP Tomcat.

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Linux-based wall-mounted or embedded touch screen - panel with OR Controller pre-installed?

2012-05-01T15:26:08Z

Page added by Jeremy Aston

This is a continuation of a discussion started on the OR Facebook page.

The question is essentially if anyone would be interested in purchasing a wall panel with OR Controller pre-installed.

My response to this is that as an integrator we have seen the market for wall panels drop massively. The primary route for control is iPad (or similar) as people will not pay 3-4 times as much for a wall panel when they can have an iPad. The other aspect is that being a hardware centric business is the wrong place in this market - the software is key.

I did also point out that having a TP as a controller does increase the risk of some breakdown in a single point of failure but it is fair to say that this is probably of limited additional risk to a standalone controller box.

The TP as a single unit controller is not a new idea and one that is still used. Even Gira at Light and Build last week announced a replacement for the InfoTerminal based around their Control9 product. It will offer a very Homeserver like interface but without the need for Homeserver. It will have timers, schedules etc but very limited logic and no plug ins (as I recall).

As Marc points out, there could be big benefits for DIY or less technical integrators as it could be essentially plug and play, requiring alot less configuration and programming.

My view is however that the software is still king. I have been keeping an eye on OR for since it's inception and feel it is about ready to use in larger scale residential and even commercial installations. The software has matured and is flexible enough to cope with pretty much anything we might have used Crestron, AMX or Homeserver for in the past. For me, the decrease in emphasis on a hardware solution and the integration of devices such as Global Cache has been a wise move and I would see a move back towards an end to end hardware/software solution presenting a risk that effort and result becomes diluted.

Sure, there is a laudable goal in making OR even more accessible at the entry level. My gut feel is that this can be approached from the software perspective. Can the configuration process being abstracted and simplified at a software level so that the Controller becomes easy to configure? Can this generate a basic user interface? Granted the platform installation process is still a potential hurdle however from an integrators perspective I would still much rather have the flexibility to offer the hardware platform of choice instead of being forced to use a solution that may be inappropriate or less flexible.

The best product I saw at Light and Build was http://www.iknix.com/ - a great product that uses a modified KNX IP interface with web server to allow the configuration of an iPad app via ETS. It interfaces with a/v via a KNX/RTi gateway. This has limitations compared to the Controller (e.g. no logic, schedules) but is a great at what it does.

Obviously I am a lurker here normally but this to me is a critical issue for OR as getting the balance of the offering right is complex and for OR to work long term in the professional install market requires the best use of resources.

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Re: XAMPP

2012-05-01T08:21:25Z

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XAMPP

2012-04-30T22:05:52Z

Page added by Mike Tirpak

Has anyone got openremote to work with xampp? If so, how did you get it to work?

Thanks

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Re: How to decrease delay...

2012-04-30T14:15:15Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

If possible, can you attempt to use something with HTTP or TCP protocol to see if it is isolated to X10 and serial port use?

In reply to a comment by Yuriy:

In this case it was a simple scheme: PC with open remote, tnan com to x.10 iterface cm 11 a compatible (http://www.razumdom.ru/production/43/405) , than dimmer x.10 module (http://www.razumdom.ru/production/50/49). Another divices was used, but didnt required. Is it clear or need more details?

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Re: Velleman K8055 Experiment USB board

2012-04-30T13:27:16Z

Page commented by Marcus Redeker

The controller.xml should look like this:

  <sensors>
    <sensor id="15" name="a2" type="switch">
      <include type="command" ref="17" />
      <state name="on" />
      <state name="off" />
    </sensor>
    <sensor id="16" name="a1" type="switch">
      <include type="command" ref="17" />
      <state name="on" />
      <state name="off" />
    </sensor>
  </sensors>
  <commands>
    <command id="17" protocol="shellexe">
      <property name="commandParams" value="/Users/marcus/test.txt" />
      <property name="regex" value="(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)" />
      <property name="pollingInterval" value="20s" />
      <property name="commandPath" value="cat" />
      <property name="name" value="a" />
    </command>
  </commands>

If your regex creates 8 var groups you can link 8 sensors to the same command.

The java code used looks like this:

Pattern regexPattern = Pattern.compile(regex);
Matcher matcher = regexPattern.matcher(readValue);
if (matcher.find()) {
  for (int i = 0; i < sensors.size(); i++) {
    sensors.get(i).update(matcher.group(i+1));
  }
}

In reply to a comment by Max:

Yes, right as I told.

I can get a response like this:

off off off off off off off off

The regex would be:

(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s(on|off)\s

Now all single results are in the regex var groups:

\1	first group = digital out 1 = on or off
\2	second...
\3	...
\4	...
\5	...
\6	...
\7	...
\8	...

How to bind all sensors to the same command?

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Re: How to decrease delay...

2012-04-29T19:35:34Z

Page commented by Yuriy

In reply to a comment by Juha Lindfors:

What was the hardware you were running the controller on?

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Re: How to decrease delay...

2012-04-29T17:20:19Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

What was the hardware you were running the controller on?

In reply to a comment by Yuriy:

Can we fix it? Is it bug or...?

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Re: How to decrease delay...

2012-04-29T17:01:43Z

Page commented by Yuriy

Can we fix it? Is it bug or...?

In reply to a comment by Juha Lindfors:

No, 1-2 secs would be normal with X10 and CM11A – but it has been quite a long time since I last time tested CM11A.

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Re: How to decrease delay...

2012-04-29T16:48:03Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

No, 1-2 secs would be normal with X10 and CM11A – but it has been quite a long time since I last time tested CM11A.

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How to decrease delay...

2012-04-29T13:05:23Z

Page added by Yuriy

Guys! There are cm 11 interface, x.10 devices, iphone. Is it normal 10 sec delay between the button action and the device request? If i used wireless remote controller it was 0,5-1 sec.
I have prepared the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TuB9JGT--0

PS Sorry fo my eng

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More Rules Help...

2012-04-28T10:32:50Z

Page added by Phillip Lavender

Hi,

It's been a while since I used OR, but now the Rules engine is in place I think I can finally achieve what I wanted only I´m not sure how. I´ve read the exmaples and the forum posts and still really have no idea where to start.

Here's the situation. (pre-rules)

I have an Amp (Onkyo) that provides an ASCII reponse to a Command queston. I wanted to create a volume slider so I created a Sensor (VolumeSensor) from a VolumeStatus TCP/IP command: !MVLQSTN
Next I created a Slider (VolumeSlider) with the VolumeSensor from above and a new command VolumeWriter using command !1MVL$

Unknown macro: {param}

First issue the status response from the sensor is in the form of an ASCII string e.g. !MVLxx. (OK so I overcame this partially with the regexp branch to only return the int val of the reponse.) However that lead to a bigger problem, that I think only rules can resolve, so never went any further. If I add another sensor say PowerSensor from the command !PWRQSTN since both sensors are linked to the same IP/PORT the reponse goes to both, which causes some strange undesired behaviour, so here's what I need now (post-rules)and not sure about the best way to go about it.

I need to be able to take a command !MVLQSTN and covert it´s reponse !MVLxx to and integer to update a Slider (VolumeSensor) but the rules should only update the sensor if the reponse starts with !MVL. Then I´m free to create other rules of a simlar nature that only update say if the reponse to their specific question i.e. a PowerSwitch where the sensor command is !PWRQSTN and the reponse is !PWR00 or !PWR01.

In rules how do I take the value of the response to the sensor command,say VolumeSensor (!MVLxx), parse it, check the first part,(if eq !MVL) then convert the remainder to an integer (int) and 'publish' that value as the sensor output so that the Slider updates.

I'm really lost here an going round in circles.

Help much appreciated.

Phill

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Re: Review

2012-04-27T17:38:19Z

Page commented by Daniel Berenguer

No problem Juha. OpenRemote is performing really well using the HTTP interface. However, if I detect a rising interest in OpenRemote from our community I'll surely start working on a custom plugin.

Excellent work OR team!!

In reply to a comment by Juha Lindfors:

Yeah thanks Daniel, this is excellent !

If you don't mind I'll post it out for others to see too.

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Re: Review

2012-04-27T17:19:18Z

Page commented by Juha Lindfors

Yeah thanks Daniel, this is excellent !

If you don't mind I'll post it out for others to see too.

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Re: One more question about rules.

2012-04-27T12:41:25Z

Page commented by Kenneth Stridh

What kind of info are you thinking of? Unfortunately I don't have more info than what I have tried to describe.

(That the rules goes of (fire) several times even though I try to limit it to just once with the "no-loop" or "timer" attributes)

For me as a novice, it is as if it get stuck in a loop inside the "then" part of the rule.

If I write a rule with "timer (cron: 0 .30 ***)" then it should fired once each full hour and half hour, but it is fired 2-6 times each full hour and half hour.

It's the same with "no-loop true" if I understand everything correctly, it shall make the rule only fired once per event, but the rule is fired several times anyway. Likewise with timer (int: 0s 30s) fired several times each 30th second.

The problem occurs only if I have a little more complex rule.

For example, works this rule (Writes "Fire!" once each full hour and half hour).

rule "Every 30min"
timer (cron: 0 0,30 * * * ?)
when
eval(true)
then
System.out.println("Fire!");
end

But this writing "Fire!" + the temp values, 2-6 times each full hour and half hour (sometimes it may be only once).

rule "Every 30min"
timer (cron: 0 0,30 * * * ?)
when
eval(true)
$outdoortemp : CustomState (source == "Utetemperatur")
$templivingroom : CustomState (source == "Temp Vardagsrum")
$bedroom : CustomState (source == "Temp Sovrum")
$kidsroom1 : CustomState (source == "Temp Barnrum 1n")
$tempFTXin : CustomState (source == "Temp Tilluft")
then
System.out.println("Fire!");
System.out.println (Double.parseDouble($bedroom.getValue()));
System.out.println (Double.parseDouble($kidsroom1.getValue()));
System.out.println (Double.parseDouble($tempFTXin.getValue()));
System.out.println (Double.parseDouble($templivingroom.getValue()));
System.out.println (Double.parseDouble($outdoortemp.getValue()));
end

Can you fire complex rules only once, each full hour and half hour with the "timer (cron: 0 0.30 ***)"?

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

We use Drools 5.1.1 in the moment.
I think for calendar to work we will have to configure the KnowledgeBase correct, which I think is not done yet.

If you have any more info about "something is strange", anything might help.

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Re: Z-Wave support beta testing

2012-04-27T12:37:50Z

Page commented by Govinda Raja Gande

Thank you Markus, looking forward to hear further updates.

In reply to a comment by Marcus Redeker:

Before releasing the beta test, we want to make it easier to configure a z-wave device.
It's planned that the controller will announce any found devices to the designer and the user will see those devices when he logs in. A new wizard is planned which will automatically create all needed commands/sensors/... for those device.

Hopefully within the next 2 weeks something will be available.

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